The International

Post-Dogmatist Quarterly

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Subject: greetings! Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:05:43 -0700 From: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com> Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art To: dee@wmspear.com

Hi Dee, I am Cecil one of your sister, Clarissa's friends in Pagosa Springs. She told me that you have a very funny and wonderful way of saying things and I was wondering if you would like to contribute something to the Post-Dogmatist Quarterly or maybe be the NW correspondent or something. Do you have a homepage?

Cecil

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/touchon/

she said THAT?! what the heck?! heehee, maybe i do...hmmm.... no, i don't have a homepage.... is that url the location of this post-dogmatist quarterly? i'll have to go check it out... or is it your homepage? nonetheless, i will check it out.... hey, but ya know, i am already tempted by this suggestion of being the NW correspondent....heehee.... ya know, just this morning i was thining of bill hudson and i hope youcan follow this, sometimes, i DON'T make sense.... a few years ago he was part of THE JUNEAU WHAT (i'm sure you've heard about this paper) and i wrote just a bitty news bit on a woman who was killed by the wire in her underwire bra.... i thought of bill this morning just after that wire burst thru that thin fabric of my underwire...as you can see tho, i'm very much alive and the bra will become part of the local landfill.... who woulda known that victorias secret could produce such a defective and perhaps life threatening product?! please keep in mind that i do not think of my bro in law each time i am undressing or dressing....hey, gotta get that straight!! heehee

more later, i've got to get some work done..... heehee...

dee

Subject: Re: greetings! Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:28:54 -0700 From: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com> Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art To: dee@wmspear.com References: 1

Dee, I just talked to Clarissa and she filled me in about the woman with the bra metal that killed her. Crazy story! Who could imagine such a thing! Yes, I guess it was a good thing that you were not bending over to pick up something. You might not have gotten back up. Anyway, yes, you could write about things, things that you think about or things that you observe or what the latest gossip is in Juneau. The Post-Dogmatist Quarterly is mostly an arts based, on-line publication. But I like humor a lot and anything funny and interesting and off beat is good by me. Maybe you could do a column... whatever!

Cecil 

Subject: Thanks Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:31:04 -0700 From: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com> Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art To: timbl@w3.org

Dear Tim,

I doubt that I would have become involved in computers if you had not paved the way with the [invention of the] World Wide Web. A brilliant bit of work. I love this whole thing and how people are on it. The whole www, internet network is amazing to an artist like myself and I just wanted to drop you a note thanking you for your efforts. It is astounding to think how legondary all of this will be to future generations. And we're living in the middle of it! I would like to mention that you are honorarily accepted as a member of the International Post-Dogmatist Group. If there is ever anything you would like to say to artists send it along.

My best to you and yours,

Cecil Touchon - The International Post-Dogmatist Group

Stop by and visit;

http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/touchon/

Thank you for your encouragement! The web is made by everyone who writes on it and everyone who reads... It is what we all make it.

Tim BL

Tim Berners-Lee http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee Director, World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org/ MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, 545 Technology Square, Cambridge MA 02139 USASubject: Re: Thanks Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:48:35 -0500 From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> To: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com>

Thank you for your encouragement! The web is made by everyone who writes on it and everyone who reads... It is what we all make it.

Tim BL

At 01:31 pm 24-02-97 -0700, you wrote: >Dear Tim, > I doubt that I would have become involved in computers if you had not >paved the way with the www. A brilliant bit of work. I love this whole >thing and how people are on it. The whole www, internet network is >amazing to an artist like myself and I just wanted to drop you a note >thanking you for your efforts. It is astounding to think how legondary >all of this will be to future generations. And we're living in the >middle of it! > I would like to mention that you are honorarily accepted as a member of >the International Post-Dogmatist Group. If there is ever anything you >would like to say to artists send it along. >My best to you and yours, >Cecil Touchon - The International Post-Dogmatist Group >Stop by and visit; >http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/touchon/ > >

Tim Berners-Lee http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee Director, World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org MIT Laboratory for Computer Science, 545 Technology Square, Cambridge MA 02139 USA

Subject: Re: abducted painter Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:42:49 -0500 From: ricardo dominguez <rdom@thing.net> Organization: The Thing To: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com> References: 1

Cecil Touchon wrote:

> > Hola!

> I really liked your post on the artist who was abducted to paint a nude. (see below)

> Is that a real assoc. press release? I would like to post that as an

> article in the International Post-Dogmatist Quarterly.

> I will note where I got it,

> Any objections or commentary that you would like to send along to go

> with it?

> Cecil Touchon, Editor-in-chief

Hola Cecil,

Yes--it's true-it's real AP--just put a note that it's from the Thingnyc message stuff--thanks.

all the best, ricardo dominguez rdom@thing.net http://www.thing.net/~rdom

From The THING bullitin board in NYC

Posted by ricardo dominguez on February 19, 1997 at 12:52:30:

Mexican artist claims kidnappers forced him to paint a nude Feb. 18, 1997 17:57 EST MEXICO CITY (AP)

- A Mexican artist seized at gunpoint off the street says his kidnappers forced him to paint a nude portrait of a wealthy woman. Witnesses saw armed men seize Niceforo Urbieta off a street in the southern city of Oaxaca on Feb. 11. He wasn't heard from for four days. Relatives and friends feared Urbieta, who was imprisoned in the 1970s for links to militant leftist groups, had been kidnapped for political reasons. His case won attention in national newspapers. But in an interview published Tuesday in the newspaper La Jornada, Urbieta said his captors were interested in his art, not his politics. He said he was picked up off the street, covered in a cloth and driven to a ``run of the mill'' room, where the kidnappers told him why they wanted him. ``This is a whim,'' Urbieta quoted the kidnappers as telling him. ``There is a very rich lady who likes your painting a lot ... and she wants you to paint her.'' Urbieta said he was given paintbrushes and forced to look through a hole in the wall at the model, who would pose nude for about an hour at a time. ``It was totally absurd. Like a voyeur I had to look at her through that hole and paint her,'' he said. ``She never spoke.'' He described her as a young woman with long black hair ``and a very well-formed body.'' He said the captors eventually took him back to Oaxaca. Authorities would not comment on the case

Subject: An evening with Cecil Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:47:10 +0000

From: Castano & Innes <castano@artsgloucester.com> Organization: @ArtsGloucester

To: touchon@sprynet.com

I took an unexpected journey into the black box tonight. The ride from Gloucester was swift swimming with the school of fish. An interesting cyber energy stopped by our Fishtown, USA. So, I followed him or her, not knowing which, back in time, jumping on memory banks paving the way. I sat at the cafe, sometimes busy, sometimes slow. Music and good friends, rides through the landscape. There was food and there was work. The children , work and back to the cafe'.

I myself, am a sculptor. I do polarized kinetic light work which is refracting light (bending the light) creating a translucent 3d environment. I too, became addicted to the medium of the internet. As in my sculpture and the same with the internet, I am interested in what we find between objects; what is in the imagery of space, energy and time. It will be interesting to look back in ten years to see what we finally made of our homepages. How did we connect with the world reaching through our black boxes? It's like the black box of imagination, and we can put our arms through the monitor and create in space like never before.

Cecil, I enjoyed your journals. An interesting concept. From there to as long as human life exists, Post-Dogmatism! I'll try and come back sometime and bring a few friends. Atleast I should tell them how to get there from here.

I took another journey out there today and thought I would share it with you Go to: http://www.somewhere.org/Turb/OnlineWorks/gimm/index.htm

Thanks for coming through town and come back and visit another cyber addicted site:

Jo- Castano @ArtsGloucester http://www.artsgloucester.com castano@artsgloucester.com

Right now the site is mostly the foundation I'll keep watering it and see what it grows I guess....

Subject: Re: Greetings Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:34:38 -0700 From: tberkey@macconnect.com (Thomas Berkey) To: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com>

>Dear Mr. Berkey,

>I took a look at the work presented. Refreshing to see some good

>non-objective art. I found you page from looking up Dartmouth St

>Gallery. Is the service your using good? I am planning to creat a links

>page of all non-objective and abstraction art. I will include a link to

>your page.

>Cecil Touchon

Hello Cecil,

I'm not exactly sure what you means by the service. If you refer to art.net, yes. It's a non-profit organization that was started to get artists onto the web. The woman who started it really wanted to encourage artists to become computer literate. There are a few of use that curate galleries, but most

I appreciate the link, but I'm not sure I can reciprocate because this is a MADI specific page, I just run it, not own it. The D'Amicos have been pretty strict about this site. They are Arte Structura International, Inc. and MADI is all they can represent in the gallery. I hope that make sense to you.

Take care,

Tab

------------------------------------------- Thomas Berkey tberkey@macconnect.com tberkey@earthlink.net http://www.art.net/TheGallery/Madi/madi.html ---------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: iris

Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:00:04 -0600

From: rawspace@whytel.com (Scott Barber)

To: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com>

>Dear Scott,

>I like those digital paintings. How do you make an Iris Print? What IS

>an iris print. How much are you selling them for?

>Cecil Touchon >

__________________________________________________________ >http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/touchon/

Dear Cecil,

Thank you for your interest in my work. These images were created with photoshop, and printed with a 2000 dpi iris printer. This is very expensive printing process, roughly $75.00 for a 22" X 16" print. I am currently selling this size mounted on 3/4 inch birch ply w/frame edge for $600.00.

If I can be of further service please contact me at 214-348-8192 in Dallas, TX.

Sincerely,

Scott Barber

Subject: Re: iris

Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:20:57 -0700

From: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com>

Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art

To: Scott Barber <rawspace@whytel.com> References: 1

Dear Scott, $75.00 true, that's expencive but on the other hand you can make them one at a time. Since there is no degradation like in etching, do you still have a 'limited edition'? That must be a BIG file! How do you get the image from your computer to the printer? modem? Tape? or can you fit that on a disc? I don't know if you visited my site but I think my collages would make good prints. It would help me a lot if I could have some prints to sell. How do you feel the collectors are taking to this type of printing? Thanks for your response, P.S. have you seen my work at Edith Baker Gallery or William Campbell? I use to live in Fort Worth but moved up here to Pagosa Springs, CO about 4 years ago.

Cecil

Subject: Anonymous

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:19:17 -0700

From: Cecil Touchon

Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art

To: yada@yadayadayada.net

Hey Keith!

I noticed Anonymous was here. Is that I.B.Anonymous from U.T.Arlington? And Mark from Boston! I get the picture... You want to make love near anybody willing to watch. Just make sure I.B. Anonymous doesn't see you. He might tell YOUR mom. And Unamused from Trenton; you need to get out of New Jersy. Now Keith, about your question. Are you figurin' on making love with yourself near somebody who is watch (Mark thinks so) or, you and somebody near somebody else? That could effect my answer.

Visit my art mag, The Post-Dogmatist Quarterly. ___________________________________________________________ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/cecil_touchon/postpage.htm ___________________________________________________________

Subject: yada yada yada

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:51:33 -0600

From: Keith Clementson

To: touchon@sprynet.com

Hey Cecil (Cecilioni),

Your question about the "I WANNA MAKE LOVE NEAR YOU" section of ART & HUMOR Magazine is a tough one to answer. But here it is: yes.

I went to your site and signed up immediately. "Shut up and paint" is a sentiment I have shared for years (2 years). Loved the site. Can I link you up?

Keith Clementson, Bald Guy

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:01:31 -0700

From: Cecil Touchon

Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art

To: Keith Clementson References: 1

"Can I link you up?" Get on with it big daddy, Assuming your a post-dogmatist, tell me what your title is and what office or department your running and I'll post that on my next update. Love your ezine I will link soon. I miss that texas humor. Cecil

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:27:25 -0600

From: clem@computek.net

To: touchon@sprynet.com

I forgot what title I used on your registration page, but I want to change it, anyway. My new title shall be "Past President of the Pre-Post Dogmatism Pragmatism". I of course defected to Post Dogmatism and I want my title to reflect that. Consider yourself linked. It'll be tomorrow morning or so, though, because I'm leaving here in a few minutes to go drink away my birthday (don't get me anything). When I'm good and liquored up, I'm going to find me a Dogmatist and open up a can of whoop-ass!

Bon jour amigo dude,

Keith Clementson, Past President of the Pre-Post Dogmatism Pragmatism

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:46:32 -0700

From: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com>

Organization: Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art

To: clem@computek.net References: 1

Your on. Spred the word pres. I am hoping we can get 10,000 members all over the world befor the end of the century to make it the biggest art movement of the 20th century. only 2 years and some months to go! By the way that form you filled out on my page doesn't do anything, nothing get recorded,I don't get notified or anything. I wonder how many people think they have become members? I guess I ought to do something about that.I also want to come up with an official logo that everybody can put on their homepage denoting that they are members.Maybe everybody could make up their own logo and later we can have an exhibit of them.

Happy birthday,

Cecil President of the International Royal Accademy of Post-Dogmatist Arts and Letters (IRAPDAL)

Subject: Re: consider yourself linked

Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:46:28 -0600

From: clem@computek.net

To: Cecil Touchon <touchon@sprynet.com>

I'd be willing to help where ever I can. I'm semi-uncanny at logo work. Mine is going to be one of the images from the upcoming "Tortilla Art Exhibit" going on my site in a couple of days. Scanning in tortillas from the restaurant across the street and manipulating them into more "crap called art". Should be MOMA worthy.

I'm really drunk now and pissed to no end I couldn't find any Dogmatists to go to jail with, but thank God I got to dance with that fat girl. with the running tab.

As we move into the next century with "the Movement", keep me posted.

Clem

Dear Clem, Thanks for the linkup! Swing by and check out your link on my linkpage off of 'Cecil Touchon Contemporary Art' page. The link to the linkpage says; "back to the worm hole". While your there check out another Post-Dogmatist at SOLIPSIS. his link is after yours. He's one of the 'old timers' he's been a post-dogmatist since the beginning in 1987. I still haven't figured out what he's doing.

Subject: wow! Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:58:14 -0600 From: clem@computek.net To: touchon@sprynet.com

I just put your link on the contents list and you give me my whole damn cover graphic. Looks great! Tres cool and thanks.

I'm still recovering from my SOLISIS trip. Wow! Reminds me of the joke: "How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? Three. One to hold the giraffe and two more to pour the pudding in the bathtub."

Thanks again for a real top shelf link. Keith Clementson

By the way, I saw your promo for the Edith Baker Gallery here in Dallas. She sat on the board that approved a grant for me. Saved my ass because she went to bat for me, got the grant approved and got my lights turned back on (a year ago last January). Actually, I had turned them back on myself without the power company knowing about it.

Small world.

Keith

Regarding IRIS Prints: If you have a ZIP or a Jazz drive, your in like Flynn. Yes...definetely your work would remain true with IRIS Prints. Even the hardliner photographers down here claim there is no more need for photographic print work anymore (i.e. darkroom printing). Galleries are taking IRIS seriously. But that's just beginning to happen - so don't bank on it without significant proof of your own. By extension it will hold true with other media, as well.

Tips:

1) Photos of your art should first be put on a CD (negatives are best). Scan in only for web site puposes since lower resolution and quality are required in the first place. But for fine art prints, first put the images of your work onto CD's.

2) Believe it or not, IRIS Printers work at 300 dpi. So if you are scanning in, do so at 300 dpi for best results. It's a techy thing.

3) Use a very high resoultion (200dpi to 300dpi), don't be shy.

4) You'll be tempted to ask for water color paper.....a classic look. But remember this: The ink isn't fixed and, if not immediately put behind glass, is EXTREMELY vulnerable to water (such as saliva from speech). The ink will also fade - but colors supossedly won't shift to red or green - after 25 or so years unless your print is lamenated. I really don't know how the galleries feel about the paper stock (artist's water color vs. high gloss lamenated). Ask Edith Baker about all this.

5) The final product from computer to print is superb!

6) Prices are reasonable. Down here they are as follows (water color paper is $10 more expensive per size) : water color

12"x 18" = $55 per print 20"x24" = $100 22x 30 = $150 30x 44 = $200 and so on........

COUPRALUX is a printer here you can call at (214) 760-0077 for more info

You just take them your ZIP or JAZZ floppy and they do the rest in 24 to 48 hours!

Your site redo looks great, by the way. Saw it earlier today. Can't wait to try the new form. I'll get after it fierst thing come sun up. I've hit the wall for today, though. So this is CyberClem signing off. Bon soir y hasta la manana.